I attempted to have a discussion with my teacher about revenge. Not such a good idea it turns out. I got the ugly mentality that I expected. I had brought up the new gun ban and he basically said that the law would have no real impact. There is too much “cultural” significance for the men to give up their guns. Whenever I hear this, I can’t help but think that it is just another pissing contest for men to engage in. From my eyes, it always looked like they were trying to make up for “something.” Anyway, he then talked about how they like to shoot into the air during celebrations. “Isn’t that dangerous?” He said that they didn’t care, most of them have a very fatalistic view. They will die when they are supposed to die. Whether it is from a bullet or a car crash it doesn’t matter. If you were meant to die that day, you were going to die. Wait a minute, that doesn’t exactly jibe with the whole concept of vengeance. That’s when things got somewhat heated…
He was predictably appalled at the idea of the government handling justice. You should do it yourself is the overriding feeling here. His argument against even a good government administering justice was that those are man’s laws, not God’s. I tried the whole “God is the only just judge,” idea. I thought that idea would have some traction, but no. He complained that it would take too long and that the government could get it wrong. “Well, couldn’t a person carrying out God’s laws get it wrong?” He would not listen, and even refused to accept the idea that people might misapply God’s laws. More importantly, he did not see the connection between the desire for vengeance and the current situations between warring tribes and never ending vengeance quests (Someone from one tribe kills another, so that tribe kills someone from the offending tribe, so they kill back, repeat for a 100 years..). “That is different,” he said, “Those people are not following God’s laws.”
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He didn’t see the connection. The idea of mechanisms doesn’t have a lot popularity here. In most people’s minds here, justice and vengeance are the same thing. If they can’t see the obvious problems with vengeance, what are the chances that they will understand the concept of a civil society? Honor and saving face is everything here, sometimes to the detriment to everything else. I didn’t have the guts to tell him that if he wonders why western people sometimes think that Arabs are “animals” or “uncivilized” he need look no further than their obsession with vengeance.